Undergeared U.S. Version

Brightfire wrote:I've got a question:
What's the stance on heirloom items for leveling? Technically, I believe they are about the equivelent of blues. Allowed or No?

I'm not in a position of authority in any way (unless you all are insane enough to do so at some point in the not-too-distant future muahahahaha), but I would answer this as "Why Not?" The blues restriction is for the raiding gear, and I can't think of a ilvl200 blue that is NOT superior to an heirloom.

It may help at some point to create a topic where we list our professions or gold making strategies. It would make it easier for some people to team up if they want to.

I won't be doing anything but gathering at first until I have a good idea of what the economy is like. That said, I'm also going to take advantage of Winter Veil fever around recipes and items (over 6 g for a recipe that sells for 25 silver? I'm there).

Okay.... consider my arm twisted.... I'll give it a shot on the PvP server.

My toon is named "Navidad"..... I didn't see Menedil on, but if you see me, send me an invite.

Nithe, level 1 human paladin. I'm going to get started.

I'll likely roll a DK tonight, just for the higher starting level. On my main server, we still raid 4 nights a week (Ditto / Becoming on US-Shadowsong), so I'll have limited time to dedicate to leveling, but still do so fairly quickly.

That said, the raid times in Gevlon's post were set at the get go for the project. What will the raid day / time be for the US version?

Ditto wrote:That said, the raid times in Gevlon's post were set at the get go for the project. What will the raid day / time be for the US version?

There is no way of knowing at this point. Though, I would imagine it would conform to the schedules of whoever makes it to 80.

dorelei wrote:It may help at some point to create a topic where we list our professions or gold making strategies. It would make it easier for some people to team up if they want to.

I won't be doing anything but gathering at first until I have a good idea of what the economy is like. That said, I'm also going to take advantage of Winter Veil fever around recipes and items (over 6 g for a recipe that sells for 25 silver? I'm there).

Side project: How one small, casual guild can dominate an entire economy.

Forreststump wrote:Side project: How one small, casual guild can dominate an entire economy.

I wouldn't be interested in trying to create a monopoly.

Though, having 10 to 20 more goblins on a server will surely affect it's economy.

Some thoughts about gear requirements:

Gevlon was pretty explicit in the "no epics" rule. But why? Is it all about the color of the letters that form the name of the gear? Really? Or... Is it really about the source of the gear, i.e. clearing raid content without gear only obtainable through raiding (or crafting because of raiding, i.e. Ulduar/ToC BoE crafting patterns)?

If it is the latter, then I would propose that two (possibly three) categories of epics are acceptable for this experiment: ilvl200 epics from Wrath-release Heroics, and crafted epics that are trainable by the applicable profession trainer. The possible third option would be NORMAL Trial of the Champion 5-man drops, since they are ilvl200 and requires no raiding. Off-limits: any gear from 10- or 25-man raids, Heroic Trial of the Champion, and any gear from Icecrown Citadel 5-mans.

In the area of gems and enchants, again I ask the same basic question: Is it the color of the text, or the source of the gem/enchant that matters? If, again, it is the latter, then epic gems should be allowed, as the only requirement to obtain the recipe is running a daily quest (repeatedly), and the raw stone is obtained through 5-man Heroic badges or prospecting, neither of which possesses a raiding requirement. Likewise, nearly all enchants can be obtained either from the trainer, or from the Shard Trader. The one enchant that comes to mind as off-limits: the now-popular Blade Ward that drops in Ulduar 25-man.

I rolled a Hunter, Gristly, on the Forgotten Coast. (My level 80 raid toons are a Warlock and a Priest. Also have a 71 Death Knight, 65 Warrior and 47 Shaman.)

Good timing with Winter Veil going on. Made 20g off that today to help jump-start myself.

Forreststump wrote:Some thoughts about gear requirements:

Gevlon was pretty explicit in the "no epics" rule. But why? Is it all about the color of the letters that form the name of the gear? Really? Or... Is it really about the source of the gear, i.e. clearing raid content without gear only obtainable through raiding (or crafting because of raiding, i.e. Ulduar/ToC BoE crafting patterns)?

Well, part of the reason to do this is to prove that we can, and as such telling everyone that we beat ICC in blues is (and sounds) more impressive.

On other fronts --- I've got a lvl 67 warrior that's been gathering dust for a while, so I'll drop a lvl 1 on the new server and transfer him over once I feel confident that this is actually going to get off the ground.

I would definitely be interested in this project. I currently have a level 71 DK on Suramar I am willing to transfer if this gets going. I would come as DPS (Unholy most likely).

I haven't rolled a character yet, but I'm totally interested in this project. I will be playing either a survival hunter or a rogue. Most likely a hunter though since my main is a feral druid.

Count me in. I'll start a lvl 1 Toon then transfer my currently-lvl 72 Rogue over from Muradin server if this thing gets going. I also might be willing to assist with funding for a Vent server if there is interest in that.

playing with a DK currently on Forgotten Coast, will xfer my 74 hunter over when everything gets going.

I just created Aliqua, a Draenei priestess. Will level her later tonite. PST me after 8pm if anyone wants to group level

Verinda has been created. Aiming for something I've never done - dual spec as resto/enhancement.

Tackling hardcore challenges on a casual schedule... If this sort of thing was more commonplace I'd never have quit raiding. Currently deciding what flavor of ranged DPS I'd like to try, but the name will be Wyrmrider. See you all on The Forgotten Coast!

--Wyrm

P.S. -- I've leveled a few alts on several different PvP servers, it's really not such a big deal. But personally I plan to use the new LFG tool along with a guild full of lowbies to avoid the issue entirely.

I just created a female Draenai Shaman named Torrenlin on The Forgotten Coast server. I'd be interested in participating in Undergeared! My main is a level 80 Tauren Druid on Bloodhoof.

I created Fini the Gnome Warlock. I imagine I'll make this my 'main alt' for the next few months, so I'll put in time fishing and cooking. I'm sure food will be handy in the end.
After this experiment ends, I'll have a character leveled up that I can transfer to my 'home realm'. I have a DK, Hunter and Priest at raiding level, but I've never created a warlock, or a gnome before .

Made a prot warrior named Luncy, I intend to level him over the winter holidays hopefully getting to 80 before January.

Slashfic, Dranny shaman. I'll find M online for an inv.

New born draenei paladin Verdandi for your service.

Skinburn the Tanking Draenei Death Knight is created. I chose DK because leveling sucks, less is good. If I need to roll another class to fill a void, let me know.

This is only if we have problems on Forgotten Coast. I have already rolled a warlock there and I'm cruising through the levels in Dun Morogh.

If we have to go to a PvE server, I'll offer up 10k gold and professional services on Moonrunner. Its not a lot of money, but I have an enchanter/tailor, jewelcrafter, blacksmith, leatherworker and engineer. My tailoring, jewelcrafting, leatherworking and enchanting are at 440+ and my engineering and blacksmithing are 300-350. On top of that, I do a steady business buying up greens and blues on the AH to DE for mats to auction. Even while I'm working on this project I will continue to have a moderate, but steady income that doesn't require alot of time. The 10k gold today will continue to grow steadily. My business is in the level 1-60 enchanting materials, so there will be a growing stock of infinite dust, greater cosmic essences and dream shards for enchants from any higher level items I might pick up off the auction house. I also have some abyss crystals piled up that I can shatter for more materials as needed.